Logos 3 to Logos 4

by Nov 17, 2009Tech6 comments

I love Logos, and I’m going to teach others how to love it in January.

But it took till today for me to (accidentally) find out that you can upgrade to Logos 4 from Logos 3 for free. It’s all here.

And for the life of me I cannot find any page on the Logos site which describes exactly which books I’ll get if I upgrade from Gold ND to Gold LE. I gather I’ll get several more NAC volumes—but which ones?

Can anyone enlighten me?

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  1. Paul Weir

    I see the Upgrade part, but I am not seeing the Free part. What’s the deal?

  2. Paul Weir

    Oops, I should look very closely to things before I comment. I found it.

  3. Phil Gons

    The core Logos 4 engine is free (but we haven’t publicized it yet—we’re saving it for a Christmas present), but most of what makes Logos 4 shine will be missing without purchasing a crossgrade (old Gold to new Gold) or upgrade (old Gold to new Platinum or Portfolio).

    If you go to http://www.logos.com/comparison, look at all of the items marked NEW!, and see if they are in Gold, you’ll find what’s new in Gold LE that wasn’t in Gold ND. I think there are 150-200 new resources. We’ll be adding some new functionality to the upgrade page that will allow you to highlight everything that’s new to you to make it easier to see what you’ll get.

    The new NAC volumes you’ll get are listed at the top of http://www.logos.com/nac (minus the two that are still on Pre-Pub):

    * Genesis 11:27–50:26, Kenneth A. Mathews
    * Exodus, Douglas Stuart
    * Isaiah 1–39, Gary Smith
    * Haggai and Malachi, Richard A. Taylor and E. Ray Clendenen
    * John 12–21, Gerald L. Borchert
    * 1 & 2 Peter and Jude, Thomas R. Schreiner

  4. Don Johnson

    I spent a lot of time in the Logos forums last night, trying to understand what is going on. I think that Logos is being less than clear in all this talk about upgrade/crossgrade/new engine discussion. I have no interest in an upgrade and don’t understand what advantage there is in a crossgrade.

    From what I understand, if you install the new engine (I downloaded the installer but haven’t run it yet) the new version will find the books I have licenses for and download the updated versions of them. Is that right? If so, that’s all I need. But it isn’t clear how the ‘crossgrade’ is superior to simply upgrading the engine.

    I recognize that Logos is a business and has to make money to stay afloat, but some aspects of their announcements and practices seem not quite as straightforward as I would like them to be.

    Don Johnson
    Jer 33.3

  5. Don Johnson

    Mark, I think Bob Pritchett often obfuscates in his remarks. I still am not clear what the crossgrade actually is. It is clear enough now that simply upgrading the engine will allow the user to continue using most, if not all, of previously licensed books. (I am not certain if all publishers in the Libronix format will be covered.)

    My point is that Logos should have and could have been much more clear from the beginning. When they announce the upgrade and it takes weeks to figure out that there is a free engine upgrade and there is also a crossgrade, it looks like they aren’t upfront and honest. And when many users are very confused about what the options are, they are obviously not succeeding as communicators.

    Unfortunately, in my opinion, this is not new with Logos, but a long standing pattern.

    Don Johnson
    Jer 33.3